Madinat al-Muslimeen Islamic Message Board
|04/11/01 at 17:33:34|
How long do u have to pray the Maghrib salaat from the time that it
I was told that you have a limited time, but recently others have told
me you have until Isha. can anyone enlighten me
|04/11/01 at 18:01:32|
to be safe, it shoudl be done preferably before it becomes dark enough to see the stars in the sky... thats what i've been told... someone please correct me if im wrong here... technically you have until isha, but its always best to do it ASAP when you know it is maghrib time.
|04/12/01 at 06:33:40|
|Asalaamu Alaikum ;-)|
To the best of my knowledge, the Maghrib prayer can be prayed after the sun has set until the twilight has disappeared. (Can someone please remind me of the Arabic word for twilight? I think its something like Shafaq?)
Once the twilight has disappeared, the time for Isha has started and hence if your Masjid prays Isha at its earliest time then the starting time for Isha will also be the finishing time for Maghrib.
[color=Blue]Sulaiman b. Buraida narrated it on the authority of his father that a person asked the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) about the time of prayer.
Upon this he said: Pray with us these two, meaning two days. When the sun passed the meridian. he gave command to Bilal who uttered the call to prayer. then lie commanded him and pronounced Iqama for noon prayer (Then at the time of the afternoon prayer) he again commanded and Iqama for the afternoon prayer was pronounced when the sun was high, white and clear. [color=Red]He then commanded and Iqama for the evening prayer was pronounced, when the sun had set. He then commanded him and the Iqama for the night prayer was pronounced When the twilight had disappeared.[/color] He then commanded him and the Iqama for the morning prayer was pronounced, when the dawn had appeared.
When it was the next day, he commanded him to delay the noon prayer till the extreme heat had passed and he did so, and he allowed it to be delayed till the extreme heat had passed. He observed the afternoon prayer when the sun was high, delaying it beyond the time he had previously observed it. [color=Red]He observed the evening prayer before the twilight had vanished; he observed the night prayer when a third of the night had passed; [/color]and he observed the dawn prayer when there was clear daylight.
He (the Holy Prophet) then said: Where is the man who inquired about the time of prayer? He (the inquirer) said: Messenger of Allah I here I am. He (the Holy Prophet) said: The time for your prayer is within the limits of what you have seen. [Muslim] [/color]
|04/12/01 at 14:51:38|
|(Can someone please remind me of the Arabic word for twilight? I think its something like Shafaq?)|
Yes it is shafaq, with regards to Maghrib it is usually referred to as ash-shafaq al-ahmar (Red twilight)
A side note, Imam ash-Shafi was of the opinion that the time for Maghrib is what it takes to do the following:
cover your privates
pray 5 rakahs
(did I miss anything ?). Although this is not the most common opinion amongst his followers ?!
As a general rule all prayers should be prayed at the earliest possible time with the exception of Isha which should be delayed.
Its quite sad that in most mosques around the world they leave no gap between the iqamah & adhan of MAghrib. Because there is a sunnah of two rakahs for those who want to pray it
Allah knows best
|04/12/01 at 16:45:46|
[quote]As a general rule all prayers should be prayed at the earliest possible time with the exception of Isha which should be delayed.[/quote]Really? Isha should be delayed? Is there any evidence for this?
Jazak Allahu Khairan.
|04/12/01 at 16:57:40|
[quote]A side note, Imam ash-Shafi was of the opinion that the time for Maghrib is what it takes to do the following:
cover your privates
[color=maroon] pray 5 rakahs[/color] [/quote]
Am I missing something? Did you mean 3 (fardh) and 2 (sunnah mu'akkadah)?
|04/12/01 at 17:31:45|
|[quote]Isha which should be delayed.Really? Isha should be delayed? Is there any evidence for this?[/quote]|
[slm] Here are some hadiths referred to in Fiqh-us-Sunnah, vol I which suggest it is better to delay, but if I may add, like the Prophet[saw], we should remember the other contextual features of salah, such as the benefit of jamaah and so on (notice the state of gathering would play a role in the Prophet's decision). I'm ignorant of each school's stance on the issue, but it would be interesting to know if there is agreement on this point or not...
Abu Hurairah reported that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "If it were not to be a hardship upon my nation, I would order them to delay the night prayer until a third or a half of the night had passed." (Related by Ahmad, Ibn Majah and at-Tirmizhi, who said it is sahih.)
Said Jabir, "The Messenger of Allah would pray the noon prayer during the hottest time of noon, the afternoon prayer when the sun was clear, the sunset prayer when the sun had gone down, and the night prayer he would sometimes delay and sometimes hasten if he found people gathered (in the mosque). If he noticed that they were lingering, he would delay it. He would pray the morning prayer while it was still dark." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.
Permit me to say something off topic by saying that this is another great example of the Prophet's [saw] flexibility and consideration for the context of a situation. For lack of a better word, it is awesome to see how he [saw] used to vary things up now and then. Yes lots of things regarding acts of ibadah have only one option, but others, like for example the adkhaar of rukoo or the frequency of voluntary fasts, were varied by Rasulallah. It's just so cool, forgive my crude vernacular, but variations allowed to us just spices up things don't you think?...
just a random thought that hit me...And Allah knows best...[slm]
|04/12/01 at 17:49:40|
|Asalaamu Alaikum ;-)|
[quote]As a general rule all prayers should be prayed at the earliest possible time with the exception of Isha which should be delayed[/quote]
The prayers all have their prescribed times at which it is permissible to pray.
The statement above relates to what is Mustahabb (ie more preferable) and in this there are differences of opinion.
|04/12/01 at 18:09:39|
|sr. Mona: yes thats 3 of fard and 2 of sunnah|
br. Abdul-Bashir: spot on dude, praying in the mosque at whatever time they pray isha is better. Especially in view of the fact that some scholars consider this obligatory for the males if they are able.
|04/12/01 at 18:27:03|
|[quote]forgive my crude vernacular[/quote]Indeed, one would think one of your title [geek] would use more sophisticated terminology than "awesome" and "cool"... tsk tsk...|
I'm jokin... if the brits can say "spot on", you're welcome to use "awesome" and "cool".. as well as phat etc (refer to the slang 101 course in the oasis :))
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